Come Bet Odds Craps
I recently discussed the Free Odds bet. https://roadgambler.com/craps/craps-simple-beginners-guide-free-odds-bet/ Let’s now discuss the cousin of the Free Odds bet, the place bet.
Thankfully, you can add an additional wager to your pass line bet after the come-out roll called the odds, which, if you win, will pay true odds. Consequently, the odds bet has a house edge of 0%. Overall, the pass line bet is definitely one of the best bets on the craps table with a house edge of 1.41%. Odds bets can also be wagered on Come bets after the Come bet point has been established. Be warned that typically if the bettor has a live come bet with odds, and the pass line has just won, then the next roll will be a come out roll for the pass line. For example, a $10 come bet on the six with $25 odds returns $30 for the odds plus $10 on the flat portion, a total of $40. However, if you bet $36 on the six as a place bet, you would win back $42. The Come Bet in Craps C ome bets work like Pass Line bets, but the key difference between the two is that you make a Pass Line bet before the shooter establishes a point; whereas, you make a Come bet after the shooter establishes a point.
Place bets are one of the most popular bets in the game of craps.
The chips that are straddling the lines in the picture below are place bets. The green chips, resting on top of the red chips, are come bet odds.
The place bets above are identified by their placement in the middle of the box lines, whereas the come bet + odds are entirely inside the box.
WHAT ARE PLACE BETS?
Place bets are wagers that a 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, or 10 will roll before the number 7 rolls. The 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, and 10 are known as ‘box numbers’. They’re called box numbers because on the craps layout, the numbers are literally in an area that is box-shaped as seen in the pic above.
The player may wager on any, all, or any assortment of the box numbers.
Betting on all the box numbers is known as betting ‘across’.
Betting on the 5, 6, 8, and 9 is known as betting ‘inside’.
Betting on the 4, 5, 9, and 10 is known as betting ‘outside’.
A lesser known place bet assortment is betting on ‘even’, which is 4, 6, 8, and 10.
Generally, while some players say ‘even’ to signify betting on the 4, 6, 8, and 10, players generally do NOT say ‘odd’ to bet on the 5 and 9. They just say, ‘5 and 9’. The reason is that the term ‘odd’ has the meaning of the free odds bet.
Unlike the odds bet, however, a place bet does not need to be accompanied by a pass or come bet; in other words, there is no ‘flat’ bet requirement. A bettor can wager a place bet by itself, with no other bets on the table. As a matter of fact, many players play place bets and nothing else.
WIN-LOSS CONDITIONS OF THE PLACE BETS
The place bets have exactly the same win-loss conditions as the odds bet. The place bet will win if the point assigned to that odds bet rolls before the 7 rolls.
For example, if the place bet is on the 8, and the 8 rolls before the 7 rolls, then the place bet on the 8 will win.
If the 7 rolls before the 8 rolls, then the place bet on the 8 (and any other ‘working’ place bet) will lose.
Place bets can also be wagered and made live at any time. Be warned that typically if the bettor has a place bet, and the next roll is a come out roll, then the place bet will NOT be working unless the bettor tells the dealer that the place bet is working. Place bets, unless declared otherwise, are always presumed to be off on the come out roll.
PROPER BETTING INCREMENTS
You must be aware of proper betting increments on the place bets. Warning: betting increments on the place bets are different from the proper betting increments on the odds bets.
The following are the payouts for each point…
Place bet on 4 or 10
- Any increment of $5
- If the bettor is going to bet $20 or more on the place bet of 4 or 10, the bettor is better of ‘buying’ the 4 or 10.
Place bet on 5 or 9
- Any betting increment of $5
- If the bettor is going to bet $20 or more on the place bet of 4 or 10, the bettor is better off ‘buying’ the 5 or 9.
Point is 6 or 8
- Any increment of $6.
- Do not confuse the place bet increment of the 6 or 8 with the odds bet, which has a proper increment of $5.
PAYOFF ON THE PLACE BETS
Place bet on 4 or 10
- Every $5 increment will pay $9
- For example, if the bettor bets $10, the payout will be $18.
- The reason why the ‘buy’ is better is because if the place bet on the 4 or 10 is $20, then the payout will be $36; however, a buy bet of $20+1 will pay $40. Just think of it this way: for one extra dollar, you obtain an extra $4.
Place bet on 5 or 9
- Every $5 increment will pay $7
- For example, if the bettor bets $10, then the payout will be $14.
Point is 6 or 8
- Every $6 increment will pay $7.
- For example, if the bettor bets $12, then the payout will be $14.
- The penalty for confusing the place bet increment with the odds bet increment is that the casino will round down. For example, if the bettor bets $10 on the place bet, the casino will pay $11. The breakdown is that the first $6 will pay $7, and then the remaining $4 will pay even money $4. Thus, $7+$4=$11. If the player had bet an extra $2, instead of $10 place bet on the 6 or 8, the player would have gained an extra $4.
CONCLUSION
Place betting is one of the best bets at the craps table. While not as good mathematically as the odds bet, the place bet has the advantage over most other bets in that the place bets take, on average, 4 rolls of the dice to resolve. Imagine how much longer you could play, and how long your bankroll would last if on a game, such as blackjack, where you had to play four hands to win or lose one wager. Or if you had to spin the reel on a slot machine four times to determine a win or lose.
Most players are not fans of waiting out the protracted time it takes to resolve a single place bet. For those players, myself included, I prefer to make multiple bets, which is a viable option.
TEST YOUR MIGHT!
So now that you’ve read this article and you can identify the place bets on the layout, let’s take a little pop quiz.
In the pic below, identify the bets that are NOT place bets…
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Come Bet Odds In Craps
Bonus question…
Of the chips in the pic directly above, with the four arrows, how many bets are NOT place bets? In other words, identify the bets that are NOT place bets…
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Answer:
There are five bets that are not place bets.
The bets that are NOT place bets are the following:
Craps Come Bet Odds Payout
Remember, the odds bet cannot be made without a come bet, so there is a come bet hiding under the odds bet.